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[10/5/2013 21:01:57] leo lo:
Sam, my sister isn't don't want to talk with you in the phone, but her emotion is very bad, she get emotional flooding, please understand that, she still working hard in her Bipolar Disorder, she's still taking medicinal.
We afraid the thing you will tell her, she can't bear, she's going to breakdown, so please talk with us first. Thank you.
[10/5/2013 21:10:11] leo lo:
please understand that, we are not want to disturb your family, we just want to let you know, she's got sick, and update my sister's situation.
[10/5/2013 21:21:32] leo lo:
please don't contact her directly, she can't bear, please talk to us frist, Thank you !
[10/5/2013 22:22:30] Sam Wan:
Your sister has been holding me hostage for years. I can't do this forever.
[10/5/2013 22:23:57] leo lo:
please wait, i call you
[10/5/2013 22:34:53] Sam Wan:
Please understand, I only want to speak with her directly.
[10/5/2013 22:39:01] leo lo:
please understand, as a family, we have to protect her, she's a patients, she still love a lot, she cry and breakdown, she can't pear your call directly.
[10/5/2013 22:40:11] leo lo:
please, just claim down, i know you suffer a lot of pain before.
[10/5/2013 22:47:20] Sam Wan:
Please don't blame all of this on her medical condition, and don't assume you know what I have tolerated from her for the past ten years.
[10/5/2013 22:48:26] Sam Wan:
I want her to be healthy too, but she has manipulated me for too long.
[10/5/2013 22:50:10] leo lo:
Can we call you in the phone??
[10/5/2013 22:51:15] Sam Wan:
Why?
[10/5/2013 22:53:13] leo lo:
i am not write very good in english, and we talk with each other may be communicate better, my father wants take a little talk with you.
[10/5/2013 23:00:18] Sam Wan:
I have been in your position for many years. She threatens to hurt herself to control people who care about her. Then, she hurts the people who protect her, but they cannot do anything to protect themselves. So, now you are protecting her because you worry for her. I understand that.
[10/5/2013 23:09:17] leo lo:
Fristly, i want to let you know, she still love you a lot, a lot and a lot. You ask me in hong kong before, you ask me did she love you ? I can tell you, yes. Her iphone's wallpaper still is your photo, and i teach her ukulele let her emotion better, she always sing the <You are my sunshine>, she think you are her sunshine, she so get the energy to face the illness.
[10/5/2013 23:09:40] Sam Wan:
I CANNOT BE HER SOLUTION.
[10/5/2013 23:11:16] Sam Wan:
You are trying to put me in a position of being responsible for someone who told me to leave many times, over many years.
[10/5/2013 23:14:40] leo lo:
in this few month, we try to communicate with you so much, we always miss you, then Mr.Wan tell us that your emotion has been bad, and told us not to contact with you.
[10/5/2013 23:15:25] leo lo:
So we try to update our information to him and billy.
[10/5/2013 23:17:01] leo lo:
We just want to have a very good communicate with you, have enough time, space.
[10/5/2013 23:17:50] leo lo:
Some information may be you don't know.
[10/5/2013 23:19:03] Sam Wan:
What is your goal?
[10/5/2013 23:35:52] leo lo:
As you sign the marriage paper with Hoi Yin, that's two people thing, two people is willing and think it very careful, and then sign it, if they have to separate, it should be two people can claimly, careful, base on a very good communication. As now, that's not enough of communication, she had things to tell you, but will can't have enough space, that you already make the decision in your side.
[10/5/2013 23:36:26] leo lo:
Please know that we all care about you, care about your feeling.
[10/5/2013 23:37:16] Sam Wan:
That makes sense. I agree. What kind of space does she need?
[10/5/2013 23:40:12] Sam Wan:
Because I have given her space like I promised your mother. I have given her many months.
[0:03:24] leo lo:
In fact, please understand that, she is suffer a bipolar disorder, that's a mood disorder, not just time and medicine can make her recover. The pressure of work, side effect of the medicine, mood disorder herself made her emotion instability frequently, all the stuff she can all face it very very well, she loves you, and you is her energy to suffer all the pain in those pressure.
The most important pressures is you already make decision that you have to separate with her and not have space let her to explanation about what her situation in this few month, how much she love you, something may have some missing piece inside.
She can't told you, and already make decision, it makes her emotion instability frequently, she think about you every day every night. And she dream about you in the morning many times.
If you can try to join the treatment with her, know about what's going on about her bipolar disorder,
talk to her, listen to her, she can recover very very well. Before you make the decision.+
[0:12:20] Sam Wan:
Ok. I am available to talk to her and listen to her. I will do what I can to make it easier, within reasonable limits. Thank you for taking the time to communicate with me.
[0:13:39] leo lo:
I don't know how much you know about bipolar disorder? I think you know who is Stephen fry.
(She told me about you guys love to watch the show of him)He is also have bipolar disorder.
And here is a link he talk about his bipolar disorder:
Maybe you can talk a few minute to take a look, you may know what i say about her.
[0:14:20] Sam Wan:
Yes I have seen that. I have studied bipolar disorder. I agree that it is real. I have friends who have bipolar disorder.
[0:15:20] Sam Wan:
You are making the situation dangerous by allowing her to blame her actions on bipolar disorder, and not taking responsibility.
[0:16:12] leo lo:
I am understand your feeling, thanks for you willing to make it easier, and thanks for you to talk to me.
[0:19:13] Sam Wan:
I'll say it again: You are making the situation dangerous by allowing her to blame all of her actions on bipolar disorder.
[0:19:33] Sam Wan:
I have to work, talk to you later, Leo.
[0:20:06] leo lo:
May be we have not the same information and understanding in bipolar disorder, we have see the psychiatrist, introduce by auntie ling, and have a very good counselor here, may be we can join the treatment together, and discuss about it.
[0:20:17] leo lo:
ok , thx , keep in touch
[2:57:00] leo lo:
I can't describe to you that how much she's feel compunction and self-accusation for hurt you so much.
Our family is all give her support to face her illness and pain, we all meet with her psychiatrist,and
counselor.
She's working so hard to try to recovery from the bipolar disorder, study so hard to find out her own problem and self-reflection, it all base on she loves you. And she can control her emotion well in normal day. But every time, when she try to communicate with you and your family,the waiting time, the response, makes her going to breakdown.
In these days, you are right, we can't really feel the same feeling that you had suffer before,
but we can imagine your pain, you suffer so much in the past few year. And you have showed patience and love out of the ordinary for my sister. She often said those love can only pay by the most wonderful person.
What I can say is bipolar disorder is not all, but may be one of a main cause make the relationship turn bad for you two . I think we can discuss about it later.
In this few months, we are hard to contact with you, because your father told us, your emotion also instability. We are worry about you. Also, we listen the advice of our counselor, and respect you, so we also let you have enough time and space until you want to talk to us. Now, you talk to me. Thanks.
Thanks for you can available to take time, to listen to her, and talk to her, join the treatment, make everything easier. Let our family discuss, which method we can communicate, and give us some time to pick up her emotion and ready to talk with you.
Sam, please just keep in mind, please don't contact her directly, she can't bear, please talk to us frist, and we will communicate in the middle in this period of time, thank you very much.
Happy to hear you to get a new job, and wish your work go smoothly!
Also we all wishing Mr. Wan recover well.
Keep in touch ~
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Hi, I understand you've had time to contact my family since we last exchanged Skype messages about setting up a phone call. It's Friday afternoon in Hong Kong right now. Let's talk on the phone or on Skype after you get off work tonight.
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I am sorry. I can't tonight. Can I get back to you after the weekend?
Thank you,
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Don't mean to be rude... thanks.
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Hi Papa, Mama, Sam, Billy and Julie,
Please understand that I am not excusing my behaviors. My behaviors were horrible, and they should not be tolerated. In fact, research showed that tolerating mood disorders, going along with it, ignoring it, and abandoning the patient all made the condition worse. The best way to get better is through family support, medical treatment and clear goal-setting with the patient.
Billy, Julie: as esteemed reporters and writers, perhaps you could consider spending some time to do a little research on mood disorders? If you do, and if you ever have a chance in the future, it'd be great if you could consider writing about mood disorders so more people would know. All the people who suffer from all forms of the disorder would really appreciate it. Because without the concepts and the terms, we would be trapped in our own sieged city, and helpless family wouldn't know how to help. My brother and I have read only too many reports of desperate people feeling hopeless in their disorders. While in fact this kind of bug in the mind could be amended, they could be so detrimental to the person suffering and to family (I am very sorry). It's too much to price to pay for ignorance.
Can both families please have a chance to talk family to family?
So far conversations about me and our marriage had happened in silo and without my participation. At first in December, my family did not know that Sam and I had huge problems. So when the big change happened, both my family and I took time to understand it.
I can't utter how sorry I am for the hurt and damage I had created for all of us so far, especially for Sam. If I could give anything to undo it, I would give all I have.
My family and I understood that this was all very tough for you all. It is for us as well. We appreciate the grace you have extended. From Jan till now, we took Sam and Papa's kind advice to take a break, and respected Sam and your family's space to take some time to think.
So much conversations, thinking and perhaps decision-making had happened in the past few months, yet my family and I haven't had a chance to really speak with you.
Sam, we have been together since we were 21, 12 years ago. I still have the UM card in my wallet with the picture I took the first day I showed up at UM in my wallet. That was the day we met.
Please give us a chance to explore what happened as families. Please do not make decisions based on silo conversations and possibly incomplete understandings.
When you guys asked me to see a doctor back in Jan, I didn't think I had a neurological disorder. I thought that all the fights we had were due to couple disagreements or my low self-esteem or I was not happy about life, like you had thought. Out of all our fights and conversations, mood disorder and bipolar had never entered our conversations. Sam and I didn't even know what it was.
Then, I saw the psychiatrist you referred and started learning about myself and my "mood cycles". With the doctor and my family, we've identified the up and down cycles and how they affect me. The doctor confirmed the diagnosis. We learnt about other people with the same condition experience similar ups and downs, and face different life challenges.
Some basic information about bipolar II:
- It's neurological. It is primarily a biological disorder that occurs in a specific area of the brain and is due to the dysfunction of certain neurotransmitters, or chemical messengers, in the brain. These chemicals may involve neurotransmitters like norepinephrine, serotonin and probably many others. As a biological disorder, it may lie dormant and be activated on its own or it may be triggered by external factors such as psychological stress. source
- It's real to the person who experiences it: see Stephen Fry talk about bipolar
- We cannot use our will to change our mood dysfunction, just as we cannot will ourselves to be full or empty in the stomach
- I had developed chronic depression for at least 2 years before it became cyclical bipolar disorder. The psychiatrist identified and confirmed this pattern.
- You remember Sam that about 4 years ago I started to lie on bed watching Taiwanese tv day and night and didn't want to get up to do anything days on end? I would watch anything I could find so I was spending hours and hours on bed. I was unbearably sad even one program ended and the second hasn't started. So I made sure I could switch as fast as possible. I also started crying inexplicably for little things all the time, remember? I am sorry for giving you all those pains and complaints. Those were not due laziness or low self-esteem, those were signs of depression, stemming from a dysfunction of neurotransimitting activities. At that time, I firmly believed I had valid reasons so be very very sad because my brain was down all the time.
- Bipolar disorder is not a character flaw or sign of personal weakness, as it is commonly misunderstood. We had unfortunately misunderstood it too. source
- Bipolar bearers go into cycles of low times and up times. To me it felt like my brain's CPU is either running in full capacity and cannot move (down state) or it runs so fast it executes functions in mad speed and cannot stop (up state)
- It takes about a year to get back to normal. With meds and therapy, it should not recur.
How Bipolar affects a person and their loved ones:
- I was not able to feel any happiness and joy - this is an effect depression has on people. In any documentation about depression you would see descriptions like "People tell me everything was going fine, that I have a good life." But the bearer of depression would not be able to experience it
- I was not able to feel any sense of accomplishment; I felt like I was failing others' expectations all the time. Every thing I encountered seemed a criticism of me.
- When I finally got out of the up and down moods, I felt compelled to make changes so I don't fall back into the dark holes again. The psychologist said I used "over-planning" to try to control the issues (I am so sorry Sam).
- However, decisions made during extreme mental states often leave mood disorder bearers in bigger life troubles, creating more stress and aggravating the condition, which in turn lead to more reckless decisions. This creates a vicious cycle.
- When I am in a up and good-feeling episode, bipolar people feel anything is possible and become reckless, or we are agitated inexplicably (very sorry)
- During a depressed phase, symptoms include: feelings of sadness or hopelessness, loss of interest in pleasurable or usual activities, difficulty sleeping; early-morning awakening, loss of energy and constant lethargy, sense of guilt or low self-esteem, difficulty concentrating, negative thoughts about the future.
- People with a mood disorder often find it hard to express to people close to them that they are unwell. Others often make the assumptions that the sufferer is weak and overly sensitive, leading to delayed treatment and more stress.
- Since the bipolar sufferers are in extreme moods, the sufferers and their family are often confused and didn't know how to react to these big changes in moods and attitudes.
Some things that are yet to be explained about what happened (not even with character or cultural reasons):
- Why have I started hiding myself suddenly two years ago? Before that I went to all of your cousins weddings (last one was Nathan's). I was there during Christmas unions. We had travelled to Macau, Vancouver, etc. Since two years ago, I started hiding not only from you guys, but from my family and my friends? Everything we did together Sam seemed hopeless to me
- Why over a year ago I suddenly wanted to get a divorce? Then decided not to. Then decided to try working in Hong Kong for a year, and wanted Sam to come with me?
- Why did I think I could not live in Seattle anymore and had to live on Lamma Island, and wanted to spend the rest of my life on Lamma Island? Why did I get much worse when I finally made it there?
- If I really want to get a divorce, and it's premeditated, why would I know not what to do afterwards? Why do I find myself taking meds everyday, going to therapy every week, trying to stay alert at work everyday, and managing my cycles every day? I ask myself every day.
- Why did I feel compelled to resolve problems between Sam and I day after day, night after night? Then cry uncontrollably?
- If I only wanted a better life and that's all I was after, why would I want to move to Hong Kong? Sam knows that I had to take a big paycut and the company I joined was inhumane
- Why did I cease to have love feelings? Wanted to be alone all the time?
- Why was I so eloquent about my pains, but couldn't even plan for the next day?
- Why couldn't I feel your pain Sam? Why couldn't I understand what people could clearly see as overly passive and overly aggressive? For these I blame myself every day and night.
- Why were my episodes only shown to you and seemingly not others (it turns out to be not true)? It was not fair.
- What percentage was the disorder? What percentage was cognitive problems?
- Is it true I will never change? Can I get better?
Because the last 2 years were proceeded by over 2 years of chronic depression, the illness actually went beyond the past 2 years and it was 3-4 years in the making. While all these seem to be different problems, they are all affected by the same issue. I reacted mostly by watching tv before, I really didn't mean for it to affect Sam when I was still relatively calm. When it did affect you so badly, in my negative destructive way, I tried to "fix the problem" all the time. You saw correctly the issue was laying within me - Neither of us would have even guessed that it was neurological. I didn't know I didn't have control over my neuros failings, and I/we didn't know could get help battling it. For over 4 years, the disorder troubled me and I tried a lot of different things but had no way to combat it. We didn't know to ask for help. I am so sorry Sam that you had to suffer with me and because of me.
You remember all the efforts I put into to feel better before?
- I tried volunteering
- I tried making new friends
- I tried changing my job to a non-profit one - I even got a second in
- I tried traveling to different places with you
- I even tried starting a business
Still the depression continued.
The key is: I don't have to be like that. Sam, you would notice that I had extreme moody episodes a few different times before 2 years ago, but overall I was stable, and now, with med and therapy, I don't get to extreme moods. In fact, I cease to be like this even though my situation now is ions worse than a few months ago. Nobody should be like I was before. It was a malfunctioning in the program, a bug in the brain, but none of us knew or had the terms or understood how to treat it. And Sam had to suffer. Really suffered. I pains me to feel your pains, and if I can give anything I have to undo it, I would. I would give everything. I would bear all the pains you felt before, now and after for you if I could.
But no one should be like that, no one who has an healthy mind should.
Imagine this had happened to your best friend. He is having these huge mood swings and making fast big plans that would uproot or even destroy his and his family's life. If you knew about mood disorders and their effects on a person life and family, you might be able to help him and his family understand the situations and its effects clearly, so the person suffering from the disorder and their family could get proper help.
The problem was, no one had thought I had become chronically depressed years and needed treatment before. Not I nor you, Sam. If I had a flu and I yelled that I wanted to take off my clothes, eat ice cream and turn on the air-con, without knowledge about what the flu is you might think: she seems to be suffering and she wants to get cool, let her be. Knowing what a flu is and how it works, you wouldn't recommend her doing that. We were in the former situation.
And that was the problem. I had a mild tendency of bipolar, my condition was not supposed to get so bad; it was a flu undetected and unattended, got worse and worse and turned into pneumonia and eventually TB. We as a society doesn't know enough about the effects of mood and mental disorders, and when they hit, we are entirely unprepared and unprotected from them (I am sorry).
Billy, Julie: as esteemed reporters and writers, perhaps you could consider spending some time to do a little research on mood disorders? If you do, and if you ever have a chance in the future, it'd be great if you could consider writing about mood disorders so more people would know. All the people who suffer from all forms of the disorder would really appreciate it. Because without the concepts and the terms, we would be trapped in our own sieged city, and helpless family wouldn't know how to help. My brother and I have read only too many reports of desperate people feeling hopeless in their disorders. While in fact this kind of bug in the mind could be amended, they could be so detrimental to the person suffering and to family (I am very sorry). It's too much to price to pay for ignorance.
My family and I have talked with other bipolar patients in Hong Kong. One girl had the symtoms to cry unexpectedly and inexplicably when she was down, and spend loads of money when she was up. Now she is facing a debt rebuilding. Did she intend to spend so much money on clothes and shoes? She said she wouldn't do the same thing if she was not affected by her up episodes.
We bearers of mood disorders are not confused in thinking, only we constantly get the wrong warning signals in our brain. It's like a warning siren about earthquake or something, once it's turned on, you cannot turn it off. If you didn't know that it was a bug, you would think you are in distress all the time. Imagine you get the distress signal day after day, month after month. 1st year, you storm it off. 2nd year, you try to ignore it by watching TV. But by the 3rd year, you would try very hard to make it stop or you'd feel it's hopeless, wouldn't you?
In fact, Sam, one of our more close friends had experienced the same in their marriage. One of them was diagnosed with bipolar 6 years ago. They had big fights, harsh times, same as us, but they asked for help. They both went to therapy and came out stronger as a couple.
The most important thing I wan to tell you: Sam, I do love you. When I felt that clearly after my treatment started I was so happy. That means I did love you and we were in love. That means our wishes before, just the night before the last horrible day, had came true. With my mood storms gone, I could feel love again. I can access the amorous feelings that other people can enjoy easily. And although I am sad I am not angry or feel hopeless. I think about you in the most loving and grateful way day after day.
I want to tell you that all the things you said to me and the support you had given me, the book you sent, the charts you drew for me, they helped after my big mood swings are stabilized. You are my super hero. I am so sorry you tried to tell me that before and it didn't get through. I was trapped. In my depressive and manic days, I've left you very lonely and helpless Sam, I am very sorry.
You remember the first time I tried to throw you out? I was in my worst state. My knuckles were constantly black from hitting myself. Afterwards I was calmed enough to say I was really scared. I said: I didn't want to you go. I didn't want to you go to Cheng Chow. Yet the whole thing felt like an ongoing hell to me, and I to you. That's the real me coming through, only too rarely those days. I didn't have the words and could have the words to ask for help. And when I did at that times and at all the other times, they sounded like half-baked remorse that were not backed by actions. Because soon I went into another up or down state again, and I hurt you all over again. I feel so guilty I don't know what to do. I am sorry for my actions and all my shoutings to you.
We took the past months to go through treatment, do research, check and recheck until we have a good enough grasp of the situation. It took 4 months. We only send this when we are sure. We are not sending these letters and writing these learnings lightly. I am not writing this in a up or down state. This is months of careful learnings and thinkings.
With continued medication and therapy (clinical data show from 9 months - over a year), the symptoms of my disorder are not expected to recur. That means my disorder won't affect you, Sam, or anyone else anymore. However, without you or your family's support, I cannot heal. We cannot heal as families. If we had knew that I had depression 3 years back and we understood how it affected us, we could have nipped this problem in the bud and that could have saved you from many troubled nights. Unfortunately, we did not understand mood disorders enough to get treatment. In the past few months, my family and I took all the time and and all effort to help me recover. I wish we could have figured all these out sooner, but it took months and it will take more months, as illnesses often do. Please do not forsake me. I have made many hurts - I am immensely sorry. Of all the years Sam and I spent together, I have never had asked for your help. If I had the words to ask for help and knew what to ask a year ago, I would have. Now I ask all of you for your support as my husband and my family. There are well researched roads to recovery and reconciliation. We don't have to be alone on that road any more. Please help.
We are not sending this email to push for a certain response. On the contrary, we hope you'd take some time to think and talk with us. We have communicated sparingly in the past 4 months (2 phone calls, a short email exchange in April, a longer email we sent recently), and in the most respectful way.
There's so much that we have yet to communicate. To make the decision with one-sided conversation and assumptions could be prudent. Please consider the 10 years before when you think about the last 2. All of the days we've shared. The future has hope.
We are all grateful for your kindness so far.
Thanks in advance and much love,
Hoiyin & Family
Thursday, May 9, 2013
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Could
you please spare some time to talk to me and my brother? This weekend, next
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you in advance,
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Hi again Billy and Julie,
Sam just messaged me. I understand you feel
you are not in the place to get in between. I don't wish to persuade you to
help me in any way, and Sam and I will communicate in due time. The reason I
contacted you was that both you and your parents are Sam’s closest family and
his immediate support system. Maybe he is not talking with you right now, but
still, your support matters a great deal to him. I do hope you give us a chance
to tell you what happened to me.
Sam had thought that my condition was psychological
rather than neurological (he said "psychology is not exact science
yet" in his last email in April).
He didn't know that bipolar bearers cannot
tame their emotions with sheer will power and in fact I needed medical support
rather than changes and pressure stimulus (which at the time none of us knew).
Without a more complete picture about what happened to me last year, and having
to use a cultural or character angle to explain everything, not only
hurts us all as a family, but mostly scars his heart.
All the professional advice and research done
in this area had shown that bipolar couples need couple and individual therapy
plus medication for the bipolar bearer to recover and manage the condition,
which with medication, it's not likely to recur and is manageable. (http://bphope.com/Item.aspx/1053/the-power-of-two)
We actually have a close friend couple who had
a lot of marital troubles, taken therapy and came out peacefully.
We may all have missed a chance of resolving
this from another angle.
I still hope you will grant me a chance to
chat, if only just as talk to to a friend.
This documentary is very illustrative in
explaining what Bipolar is:
Thanks,
Alice
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Just want to add I am very sorry how my
actions and sayings had hurt Sam and your family - I am not using this chance
to excuse what happened, only to communicate what our family and I had learned
thus far.
Look forward to your reply,
Thank you,
Alice
Look forward to your reply,
Thank you,
Alice
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May 9, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Alice Hoiyin Lo <hlo@lohoiyin.com> wrote:
Hi again Billy and Julie,
Sam just messaged me. I understand you feel
you are not in the place to get in between. I don't wish to persuade you to
help me in any way, and Sam and I will communicate in due time. The reason I
contacted you was that both you and your parents are Sam’s closest family and
his immediate support system. Maybe he is not talking with you right now, but
still, your support matters a great deal to him. I do hope you give us a chance
to tell you what happened to me.
Sam had thought that my condition was psychological
rather than neurological (he said "psychology is not exact science
yet" in his last email in April).
He didn't know that bipolar bearers cannot
tame their emotions with sheer will power and in fact I needed medical support
rather than changes and pressure stimulus (which at the time none of us knew).
Without a more complete picture about what happened to me last year, and having
to use a cultural or character angle to explain everything, not only
hurts us all as a family, but mostly scars his heart.
All the professional advice and research done
in this area had shown that bipolar couples need couple and individual therapy
plus medication for the bipolar bearer to recover and manage the condition,
which with medication, it's not likely to recur and is manageable. (http://bphope.com/Item.aspx/1053/the-power-of-two)
We actually have a close friend couple who had
a lot of marital troubles because one of them has bipoar, taken therapy and
came out peacefully.
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Hi
Hoi-Yin,
We
appreciate your sharing with us about your journey. We know it's been a tough
road, and we're so glad to hear that you are doing better with the love and
support of your family, doctors, and counselors.
Please
know that we wish the best for both you and Sam. At the same time, we don't
feel that our involvement would be helpful in an already complicated
matter.
You
both are in our thoughts and prayers.
Billy
& Julie
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